Storyboarding & Easy Readers
with Anastasia Suen
Verla: Hey....where's our guest of honor?
_Lyra: hope she didn't have trouble getting here...
Verla: I don't see Anastasia anywhere....
Verla peeks under the desk, behind the door...even in the bathroom stalls....NO Anastasia
_Lyra: what's the topic, Verla?
Verla: Gulp...one minute to workshop time and NO anastasia?
guest-Dann: If she doesn't come, can we goof off for the whole hour? (BEG)
NOTE: BEG = Big Evil Grin
Verla: I don't know the FIRST thing about storyboarding.
_Lyra: Maybe Anastasia is VERY prompt...and will be here soon
ClaraRose: something I have heard a lot, but don't know very well.
Verla: I sure hope so. She emailed me earlier today and said she'd be here.
guest-Dann: We'e filling up and no Anastasia
tinaeva1: hi everyone
_Lyra: hmmm...oh where oh where can Anastasia be?
Verla: I'm going to send her an email. You folks can arrange the chairs and set up the podium & microphone while I'm gone. brb
NOTE: brb = Be Right Back (Or alternatively, BathRoom Break)
_Lyra: Forget the chair...I'm reclining on a sofa while I wait
Verla: and NO fighting over the chairs!
guest-Dann: oh where, or where can she be? With her ears so short...Sorry
Verla: Well, I sent her an email. Don't know what else I can do.
Don_S: tick tock tick tock hours.
_Lyra: It's 6 here (g)
NOTE: g = Grin
MelLane: It's not 8 yet, is it?
Verla: yes. It's 5 after by my clock.
MelLane: Well, the tv just changed shows, if that helps.
Verla: If she doesn't show up...what topic do you all want? You get to pick potluck.
guest-Dann: If we pick, do we have to lead it, too?
Christyy: lol Danne
NOTE: lol = Laughing Out Loud
Verla: Lyra and I will lead the potluck. (I get first dibs on the deserts!)
_Enchanted: Hi --- It took me 15 minutes to get in here tonight!
Verla: Yikes, enchanted! Maybe that's what happened to our featured speaker
Don_S: It looks like storyboards is a popular topic.
Verla: Okay...picture books use story boards
Verla: Anyone here know what a storyboard is?
DonaV: Isn't a storyboard what's used to plot out films?
Verla: Some people also use them to plot out books, mel
kidlitkt: same as a dummy?
DonaV: To give books that cinematic quality?
guest-Dann: Is it where you think in scenes?
Verla: Our featured speaker has had some kind of problem and isn't here tonight, folks. So we are FAKING this workshop until she arrives
DonnaB2: Hey, maybe Anastasia can't get in at all, like me last week.
Verla: Could be, donna
_Lyra: We could have a question and answer, kia...anyone have probing questions for those of us who published?
Verla: Good thought, lyra
_Enchanted: I've got one! I've got one!
Verla: what is your question, enchanted?
_Enchanted: Where can I do some reading up on POV? Any suggestions? Online? Good book?
NOTE: POV = Point Of View
_Lyra: I don't know about (instructional) writing books, but POV is something that's not always easy
guest-Dann: We're doing a workshop on POV at the Writer's BBS
NOTE: Writer's BBS is an on-line bulletin board (URL is unknown to me)
MelLane: Writer's Digest has a WONDERFUL book on Point of View.
MelLane: It's called "VOICE & STYLE"
Verla: Writers Digest books has a great book, enchanted...one of their "elements of fiction writing" series of books on how to write well
Verla: Characters & Viewpoint is the name of that book
MelLane: Oops. Voice & Style covers viewpoint, too. (Sorry!)
Verla: I'm sure more than one of their books does, mel
_Enchanted: I'm copying this down. Thank you.
MelLane: What's so sad, is I have CHARACTER & VIEWPOINT, too!
_Lyra: what do you mean, Mel?
MelLane: The book, Lyra. I have both books...
_Lyra: When you're writing POV, just always remember to be that character's EYES, only see what they can see
guest-Dann: That can be hard to do, sometimes. Like, in this book I'm writing, the main character gets hypnotized
guest-Dann: I couldn't show what was happening, because she wouldn't know it
Verla: Hmmm. So...you can't show what is happening from that character's point of view then
_Lyra: You might need other viewpoints, Danni
Verla: that means you need more than one point of view for that book to work, Danni...or else you will have to change to another character for your main character
MelLane: You could show the impressions your character has...
guest-Dann: I tried just jumping to after she woke up and having someone else tell her what happened.
_Lyra: That's a good device, too, Danni
guest-Dann: It took place at a tv show
Verla: That could work, danni
Verla: Or...why don't you have the character watch what happened ON the tv broadcast. (I'm assuming it was taped?)
_Lyra: You could have a chapter showing the TV show
Verla: Hey, I just SAID that, lyra!
_Lyra: twinsies (g)
guest-Dann: Good idea. I think I will have a tape of the show. Thanks Lyra and Verla:-)
Harazin: Danni--look at "If I should die before I wake" and see how Hans did it. That technique may work for you
guest-Dann: What book is that, Harazin?
Harazin: "If I should die before I wake"
_Lyra: Seems the most recent books I see for kids have different styles, like I'm reading one in present tense now
guest-Dann: Lisa's War is in present tense. Makes everything sound more urgent
MelLane: Lisa's War?
guest-Dann: It's by Carol Matas (not sure if it's still in print)
Harazin: present tense is usually not recommended for juvenile
_Lyra: (I don't like present tense, although I did sell a TEEN short story written that way)
Harazin: Present tense is tiring to me
_Lyra: I am actually doing something weird for POV in my new book
kidlitkt: cool lyra, what?
_Lyra: My heroine is the main character and it's first person--but I show another character occasionally in 3rd person
Verla: In my YA book, I change viewpoints with every other chapter. First hers, then his, back and forth. It works
Verla: NOTE: For anyone that just came in, our featured speaker has had some kind of difficulty..so we are having an open question/answer session until she arrives
_Lyra: Verla can answer questions about pic books, I can for mid-grade, and I'm sure others can for short stories or articles
DonnaB2: Another question. Other than number of picture/illustration opportunities, is there any way to tell whether you've written a book (PB) or a magazine story?
NOTE: PB = picture book
MelLane: Sounds GREAT, Dani! <g>
guest-Dann: It's about a Jewish girl who joins the Danish resistance
_Lyra: That IS hard...but for it to be a book, it has to be very strong, visual, and topical
DonnaB2: What do you mean by "topical?"
guest-Dann: I think it's YA
NOTE: YA = Young Adult
guest-Dann: Okay, I have a frivolous question. What does an acceptance letter look like? Or a phone call sound like?
guest-Dann: I've always wondered
guest-Dann: I'll save my question til after the workshop
*** Anastasia has joined channel #Kidlit
Verla: She's HERE!
Verla: Our featured speaker made it!
_Enchanted: Lower the drawbridge.
_Lyra: yeah for Anasastia!
DonnaB2: Hope you didn't get a speeding ticket on the way!
Verla: Everyone who is new...please comment and ask questions pertaining to the topic as we go....but keep personal comments, hello's & goodby's until afterwards.
*** Verla has set the topic on channel #Kidlit to What is a StoryBoard Workshop in Session
Anastasia: HI! Shall we begin?
Verla: Okay, Anastasia...You are ON!
kidlitkt: go girl
_Lyra: and look at the crowd who wants to hear you, Anastasia!
Anastasia: I wanted to talk about storyboarding
Anastasia: I use this tool extensively
Anastasia: when I write picture books
Anastasia: I find that It helps me think
Anastasia: It's like the movies
Anastasia: I see all of the scenes at once
Anastasia: and then
Anastasia: I know what to write
guest-Dann: Is it like what the Disney people do for their animated movies? I mean, a real physical storyboard?
Anastasia: I use a piece of paper
Anastasia: lined or unlined
Anastasia: and I make boxes on it
Anastasia: they look like little pages
guest-Dann: Guess it is
Anastasia: After I make the boxes
Anastasia: I circle page 5
DonnaB2: 1 - 4 are title, etc.???
Anastasia: in a picture book
Anastasia: p 5 is where your story begins
Anastasia: I ALWAYS WRITE P 32
Anastasia: BEFORE I begin
Anastasia: I need to know where the story is going
Anastasia: so I know
Anastasia: where *I* am going
guest-Dann: So the ending is first?
Anastasia: I want to know the beginning
Anastasia: and the ending
Anastasia: the hard part
Anastasia: is the middle
Verla: Ah...good plan, Anastasia. So...you do this StoryBoard BEFORE you even start writing your story?
Anastasia: I do it when I have an idea
kidlitkt: are you an artist or a stick-figure kind of person?
Anastasia: If it fits on a storyboard
Anastasia: then I know I have enough story for an entire book
Anastasia: I was trained an illustrator,
Anastasia: but I gave that up several years ago
Anastasia: I do not draw the pictures
Anastasia: I only see them in my head
Verla: Do you put the words on this story board first?
Anastasia: I write one line or one word captions
Sammeow: How many frames to you have on your paper?
Anastasia: three boxes across - 5 lines down
Anastasia: it adds up to 32 (picture book) pages
Anastasia: the first box start with the first "page of the book
Anastasia: which is on the right
Anastasia: does that make sense?
Anastasia: Eve Bunting said in an article I read years ago
Anastasia: make it like the movies
Anastasia: I write it out like scenes
guest-Dann: So the captions would be like "Sam gets lost" "Sam finds baby bear who's lost"
Anastasia: Sam under trees, crying
Anastasia: every page has TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PICTURE
Anastasia: or the book goes no where - visually
Anastasia: the "Page turn" is very important
guest-Dann: Good way to tell if it's a picture book or a magazine story!
Anastasia: you have to have a reason to "turn" the page
Anastasia: yes, a mag story has only a few pictures
Anastasia: a picture book needs 14 or more!
Verla: I usually make sure my stories have at LEAST 16 "scenes" in them that an illustrator can pick from
Anastasia: with a storyboard, I can "see' the entire book
Anastasia: all at one time
Anastasia: I can see the story arc
Anastasia: I can see where it drags
Anastasia: I can see if the story is too short
Anastasia: or too long
Anastasia: It helps me see the big picture
guest-Dann: 32 pages, 14 pictures? What happened to the other pages?
Anastasia: 14 picture = 14 double spreads
Anastasia: more pictures is better
guest-Dann: Oh, I get it
Anastasia: but the artist decides that
Anastasia: not you - unfortunately
Anastasia: p 5 is your opening
Anastasia: you must "set the scene", introduce the main character
Anastasia: and tell the story problem
Anastasia: all in one page
Anastasia: with as few words as possible
Anastasia: p 32 is your happy ending
Anastasia: you must wrap up all of the loose ends
Anastasia: and some editors like to end a story with a twist
Anastasia: that's fun,
Anastasia: but it can be hard to write
Anastasia: has anyone tried using a storyboard?
guest-Dann: not yet
ClaraRose: actually I have.. but didn't know what I was doing
Anastasia: How about a book dummy?
Sammeow: I've set up a dummy
ClaraRose: yes, I've done a dummy.
Anastasia: a book dummy is like a little paper book
Anastasia: I find it helps me to see the page turns
Christyy: I've done a dummy before
kidlitkt: what size is your storyboard?
Anastasia: well, a storyboard is all of the book dummy pages
Anastasia: written VERY tiny - onto one page
Anastasia: I make mine on notebook paper
_Lyra: sort of like a book outline all in one place visually
Anastasia: the boxes are 1 inch by 2 inches
Anastasia: yes, Lyra
Anastasia: I write the pictures I want to see on that page
Anastasia: then I write the words
Anastasia: after the pre-thinking stage
_Enchanted: "prethinking" -- I like that
_Lyra: How long does it take you from start to finish, Anastasia?
Anastasia: I can do a storyboard in a matter of minutes
Anastasia: but I rewrite them constantly
Verla: Gosh, this is GREAT, Anastasia. I've never done this BEFORE I wrote a story. I've done something similar AFTER I got the first draft done...to see what needed "fixing" But I like the idea of doing it at the beginning!
Anastasia: thanks, verla
DonnaB2: Like Verla, I've kinda done it afterwards.
Anastasia: if I get stuck
Anastasia: I throw eveything out
Anastasia: and start again
DonnaB2: You have the basic story idea, though, right? Isn't it like fitting your story (words) to the storyboard?
Verla: Ohhh. Good way to phrase it, Donna
Anastasia: I use the board to help me see the entire plot
Anastasia: all at once
Anastasia: there is no set way, really
Anastasia: I do it first
Anastasia: so I won't write in circles
Anastasia: it's part of the thinking process for me
Anastasia: I'm a visual writer
Anastasia: so i need to see the pictures
Verla: Explain "write in circles," please?
Anastasia: Oh, I go on and on and on
Anastasia: when I write in circles
Verla: Oh...you mean like drag the story out too far....too long?
Anastasia: I need the frame
Anastasia: of the storyboard - so i know how much to write on each page
Verla: Ah...so this helps you to keep the story tight enough to be a really good picture book!
DonaV: It sounds as though you're saying that you see the images first, and then the words come
Anastasia: yes - pictures first
Anastasia: then words
Anastasia: I stay tight
Anastasia: when I have the storyboard - yes
Anastasia: well - I have the basic idea before I start
Anastasia: I do have a few words
Anastasia: I call them the "opens' and "closes" -
Anastasia: just like they do on TV
Anastasia: and then I do it over and over and over...
Verla: hmmm. I usually "see" the words first and the pictures second!
Verla: I would put the words in the frames and THEN visualize the pictures that go with them.
kidlitkt: me too
Anastasia: I do that sometimes, too Verla - words to pictures
Anastasia: do you "see" the pictures when you write a picture book?
Anastasia: do you write them down - just for yourself?
Anastasia: I wrote the pictures I wanted to see
Anastasia: and then I wrote the words
Anastasia: I did a newspaper article yeasterday - without a storyboard
Anastasia: yikes! It was over 800 words long
_Lyra: on what topic?
Anastasia: books! :)
DonaV: So the storyboard keeps you from writing *too* many words/pages (a problem I have)
DonnaB2: How do you use a storyboard for an article?
Anastasia: it helps me think
EZGuest5: For nonfiction?
Anastasia: yes, for nonfiction
_Lyra: how many books have you sold, A?
Anastasia: 5 PB
Anastasia: 12 EZ
NOTE: EZ = Easy Readers
Anastasia: I use the storyboard on everyone of them
Verla: So you use a storyboard for easy readers, too, anastasia?
Anastasia: yes- for EZ, too
Anastasia: the one EZ I did without a storyboard - was 1,500 words!
Sammeow: Does the EZ follow the PB format?
Anastasia: some Easy readers are like Picture Books
Verla: So how do you set up the EZ reader storyboard? It isn't 32 pages, is it?
Anastasia: these all had different page requirements - depending on the grade level
Anastasia: 8-12-16 pages
Verla: So you took the number of pages...
Verla: still leave off 5 pages? Even in the 8 page books?
kidlitkt: 16 double spread?
Verla: I mean four pages...starting on page five?
Anastasia: not in these - the textbook EZ books start on p 2
Verla: oh. Okay.
Verla: I wondered. three pages didn't seem long enough!
Anastasia: 16 pages for everything!
Verla: So that gives you 2 half pages and 3 double page spreads for the 8 page books, 5 double page spreads for the 12 page books and 7 double page spreads for the 16 page books?
Anastasia: layout for EZ 2-3 = spread, 4-5 = spread,
Anastasia: 6=7= spread - 8 = closing page
Anastasia: the longer once had more spreads - and 12 or 16 was the closing spread
Anastasia: a single spread
Anastasia: and then I rewrote everything
Anastasia: to make it fit their specifications
Anastasia: and each level has a different "character count"
Anastasia: that's letter, punctuation and spaces
_Lyra: sounds pretty mathmatical
Anastasia: it was! I was counting and counting!
Anastasia: trade isn't like that.. thank goodness
Sammeow: Do you use leveled vocabulary words for the EZ?
Anastasia: for the EZ - i used the words they allowed - depending on what had been previously taught
Verla: Thanks, Anastasia. That's a BIG help. What publisher were these EZ readers for? Because that makes a BIG difference. Every one seems to want a different kind of format for those EZ readers.
Anastasia: read lots and lots of them
Anastasia: that's what Anne Hoppe said when i interviewed her
Anastasia: she said to read 50-100 EZ
Anastasia: it's a very difficult form
Verla: So,I guess the BEST way to do easy readers is to look in the bookstore at the publisher you want to write for and "examine" their books. Page by page.
_Lyra: did my question about when you sold your first book & what it was show before I was cut off?
kidlitkt: no lyra
Anastasia: I sold my first book in 96 - the day after my 40th b'day
Anastasia: I had been writing and mailing for 10 yrs
Anastasia: I had previously sold 3 poems to magazines
DonnaB2: Boy, that's discouraging.
*MelLane * How many books has she sold? She REALLY knows her stuff!
--> MelLane She said 17, mel
Verla: I wrote for 5 years before my first book sale and had two mag stories sold...
Anastasia: you were faster than I was! :)
Verla: I took the ICL (Institute of Children's Literature) correspondence course, Anastasia...I'm SURE it cut YEARS off my publishing time...
Sammeow: 5 to 10 yrs. is normal, isn't it?
Anastasia: yes 5-10 yrs is average
Anastasia: do you storyborad at all, Verla?
Verla: Only AFTER I have written my stories, Anastasia. What I do is go through a first draft and stick numbers on it where I "see" all the picture changes...I make sure I have a minimum of 16 pictures and usually 20 to 22 of them in my manuscript
Verla: But I really LIKE the idea of the full storyboard!
Anastasia: so the words come first for you, Verla
Verla: Yes, they do.
Verla: But I'm not a trained illustrator.
Verla: I DO "see" pictures all the time I'm writing, though
Anastasia: I don't illustrate them at all
Anastasia: do you write an outline so you can plan out your scenes?
Verla: Not usually...
Verla hides her head in shame....
Sammeow: Do you indicate where you "see" pictures on your MS, Verla?
NOTE: MS = manuscript
Verla: Yes, with numbers, Samm
Verla: I go through the whole story and number every picture change...then I can see how badly "spaced" my story is.
Verla: I may have two paragraphs of one picture then a line with four picture changes in one sentence!
Verla: I rewrite until the pictures are fairly evenly spaced.
Anastasia: none of this ever goes in the mail - however
Anastasia: that's why we rewrite
kidlitkt: I see in words, can you explain
kidlitkt: evenly spaced pics?
Verla: No huge blocks of unpictured areas and no places with too many changes too fast. That doesn't mean all of them have to have the same number of sentences, though!
Anastasia: too boring
Anastasia: unless it's a poem
Anastasia: and it HAS to be that way
Anastasia: then you must follow the form
Anastasia: of the poem
Anastasia: as well as the form
Anastasia: of the picture book
Verla: You just don't want LARGE areas of type for one picture and then one word per picture change for the rest of the story
kidlitkt: i see
Anastasia: the easier it is to read
Anastasia: the harder it is
Anastasia: to write
Verla: Yes, each of my 200 word picture books took me 2 to 3 years to write. They are all in rhyme.
Verla: You want your story to be fairly even...a sentence or two on each page...or one paragraph per page...or whatever "pattern" you set up for it. Whatever it NEEDS to be told the best way you can tell it.
Anastasia: I love patterns
Anastasia: they help me think
Anastasia: but I need to see the pictures first
Anastasia: before i can write the patterns
Anastasia: i make myself crazy
Anastasia: and then end up throwing most of my writing away
ClaraRose: I tend to be that way too, somewhat, Anastasia.
Anastasia: you throw it away?
ClaraRose: I need to see the pictures first
Anastasia: hooray! ClaraRose!
Verla: Giggle. I wrote somewhere between 80 and 150 verses for Iron Horses...used 16 or 18 of them in the final manuscript.
ClaraRose: Wow, Verla!
Anastasia: do you write that many now, verla?
Verla: By the time I get done with a story -- probably, Anastasia!
Sammeow: One way isn't better than the other (pictures to words or words to pictures). It's just the way one's brain works best in the creative process.
Anastasia: I agree, sam
Verla: Hey, folks...it's normally time for the workshop to end....but because we started late...all those who want to stay to get the full hour are invited to continue for another 15 minutes. Is that okay with you, Anastasia?
Anastasia: fine! :)
SherylT: i did a storyboard for a piece I did for TURTLE and the pictures weren't where or even what I pictured they'd be.
Anastasia: that happens
Anastasia: I use the board to help ME think
Anastasia: after I turn it in - it's their baby
Verla: Yes, the storyboard is ONLY for the writer's own use. Your illustrator will take it and add his/her own vision to yours...and hopefully make your story even BETTER than you imagined it.
Verla: (That's what happened with my first two books. They came out SO great! Much better than I'd imagined them.)
Anastasia: verla - I did tell you about my 4 inches for Delivery, didn't I?
Verla: No..what do you mean, 4 inches?
kidlitkt: 4 inch pile? Anastasia: 4 inches of rewrites and rejects! :)
Anastasia: a 4 inch pile of files!
Verla: yikes is right, Anastasia.
Anastasia: rewrites - rejections - remember - it was 8 years from idea to acceptance
Verla: Yes. I have a large amount of them, too. I never measured mine, though. LOL
Anastasia: i just tell everyone I'm a rewriter
NOTE: LOL = Laughing Out Loud
Verla: Hey, the only way to be a GOOD writer is to be a re-writer.
Anastasia: thank you ma'am!
_Lyra: totally agree--I do lots of rewriting
Anastasia: i find that writing it out helps me think- it gives me new ideas
Verla: And I almost HAVE to print out my stories and use a pen/pencil on them to write in changes. I find I can see the problems much better that way.
Verla: And something else that REALLY helps is to read them OUT LOUD
Sammeow: me too
Verla: You can SEE where the page turns are wrong when you are reading it out loud
Verla: You can tell if that one word works by itself on that page or if it needs more with it
Anastasia: I storyborad - I write by hand - i type them in - and I rewrite ALL of them - again and again
katrapp_: i always read out loud
Anastasia: it has to sing - or out it goes
ClaraRose: do you have a felt story board like tool? Or some kind of template?
Verla: I made templates for me, clara.
Verla: Took a paper and divided it into 32 spaces...then made photo copies of it. So if I want to do a storyboard..I just grab one of the papers and write away
Anastasia: no - I use old paper - I recycle everything - I write on the back of the page
Anastasia: i just scribble out the boxes - and go
SherylT: I use file cards.
Anastasia: file cards are movable! :)
SherylT: I can move the file cards around.
Sammeow: Do you save the originals...and drafts?
Anastasia: that's how you get 4 inches! you save everything
katrapp_: yes, i always have several drafts on the computer
Anastasia: I date them - because sometimes I backtrack -
Verla: hehhe. The first book I sold was my covered wagon story. AFTER it sold, the copy editing department noticed that I didn't have the "seasons" historically accurate for my family.
kidlitkt: ick, Verla
Verla: I had them leaving in the spring and arriving in the spring. The families left in the spring and arrived in the FALL
Verla: This story was written in rhyme...
Verla: So I had to cut apart the entire manuscript and put the seasons in their correct order. THEN some of the "events" of the trip were wrong...
Anastasia: oh no
Verla: and there were big "gaps" in the story line.
Verla: My whole living room floor was covered with the verses for two days!
Verla: When I got done, I had to rewrite a bunch of the verses and write several new ones to fill in the holes.
katrapp_: verse flooring?
Verla: Hmmm. Interesting phrase for it, but it works, kat
Verla: It was a major undertaking!
_Lyra: picture books ARE hard
tinaeva1: How long did that take Verla?
Verla: I did it all in ONE week. (they were in a hurry for the manuscript)
Anastasia: of course
_Lyra: It's really common to wait for editor comments, then they want it yesterday
katrapp_: lyra... how so?
Anastasia: hurry up and wait - in reverse!
_Lyra: yeah--if editors get behind they pass on tight deadlines to authors
Verla: Luckily...I still had all the verses I'd written and "discarded" from previous versions of the story...so I was able to go back to them and pull out bits and pieces that worked in this "new" version.
Anastasia: that's why I save everything!
Verla: Yep. Me, too.
_Lyra: I save earlier versions, too...which can mean lots of paper
Anastasia: I can imagine - novels are a lot longer
Verla: And you will find when you get published that the publishers have TWO speeds only. Breakneck and Full Stop.
Verla: Full Stop is what you usually see....until you sell something.
Verla: DARN. Our hour is UP, folks. Any last questions for Anastasia?
Verla: And.. we are SO glad you made it, Anastasia!
Anastasia: thanks, sorry about the delay! :(
katrapp_: thanks bunches Anastasia :)
tinaeva1: Thanks Anastasia. Bye all.
DonaV: Great information! Thanks!
Christyy: thank you anastasia!
guest-Lyn: Wonderful workshop -- lots of things I'm going to try.
EZGuest5: Thanks, Anastasia
Sammeow: Many thanks, Anastasia & Verla,it was great
Verla: Some of us were very GLAD you didn't get here right on time, Anastasia...we had a few people who had a lot of trouble connecting tonight (like YOU!) and they came in late
SherylT: Like me. But Verla is a good pilot.
Verla: But you DID make it, Anastasia, and that's what counts!
Anastasia: thanks, Verla
Anastasia: that makes me feel better
_Enchanted: very good workshop --- thank you, Anastasia.
Verla: Oh...by the way, Steven Malk (Children's Book Agent) will be back here next week for the workshop
_Lyra: election night w/Steven (g)
katrapp_: i will try my best to be here
Verla: Oh, everyone...
Verla: I just got the transcript posted tonight of the workshop that Janis Waldrop (Field) did
_Lyra: that was a GOOD one
Verla: That's the gal who makes her LIVING off of selling her writing and she had some INCREDIBLE information she shared with us that night
Verla: It was an exceptional workshop!
Sammeow: How long do the workshops stay on your page, Verla?
Verla: So far, I haven't removed any of them, samm...
Verla: until my server tells me I am out of space, I'll leave them up.
Anastasia: Good night everyone! Thanks for having me - I must tuck my kids in - it's a school night...
Anastasia: good night! :)
Verla: Thanks SO much, Anastasia!
Harazin: night Anastasia and thanks
Christyy: night anastasia!
SherylT: Thanks Verla and Anastasia! Goodnight! (Buttoning my coat and going out the door.)
_Lyra: thanks!!! Applause
ClaraRose: Excellent Job!
Verla: We appreciated your coming and all your GREAT information!
Christyy: clap clap clap!
_Lyra: my kitty is even purring approval, Anastasia
DonaV: Wonderful workshop!
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