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Workshop Transcript

Writing for Young Adults

with Linda Joy Singleton

Note: Many thanks to Alma for "saving" this workshop by logging it when Verla's computer decided to be stubborn and not log it....

 

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<Verla> The workshop is about to begin, folks

<MelLane> I'm REALLY looking forward to this, Linda.

<Verla> Welcome to our weekly Kidlit Workshop. We ask that you hold all personal chit-chat until the hour is up, but Please! Free free to join in the topic currently under discussion.

<Verla> Tonight our workshop is being presented by LJ (aka Linda Joy aka Linda) Singleton, author of 25 books for kids, including the WONDERFUL new series REGENERATION

* misskopelke rolls on the floor in hysterics ... HA HA HA HA HA!

* misskopelke yells, Yippeeeee!

* misskopelke waves wildly across the room and hollers, CONGRATULATIONS!

* misskopelke yells, Yippeeeee!

<_LJSingleton> huh?

<misskopelke> whoops

<_LJSingleton> It's okay miss -- mistakes happen

<Verla> Please tell us a little bit about your Regeneration books, Linda. (And don't forget the TV option!)

<_LJSingleton> REGENERATION is a paperback original series published by Berkley books about 5 teens who discover they have been cloned in a secret experiment and their lives are in danger.

<_LJSingleton> The newest book, THE IMPOSTER, involves missing songs, a hidden power, and a 3-way romantic triangle.

<_LJSingleton> The covers are on my website: www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/4815/

<Verla> (These books are targeted to YA, but are GREAT for all ages, from about ten or so up.)

NOTE: YA = Young Adult Novel/s

<_LJSingleton> Yes, Verla. I have readers from 5th grade to adult -- surprisingly adults seem to like them, too

<_LJSingleton> Also, books and reviews can be viewed at the online sites like Amazon or B&Noble

<Verla> AND the first book has been optioned for a possible TV series, Linda...don't forget that!

<_LJSingleton> The first book is in development for a potential TV series -- no sure deal by any means. But it sounds cool.

<silverpen> I have a question. What's the main difference between an adult story and a YA story?

<Verla> Please hold the questions for just one more minute, silver, until we finish the introduction...

<silverpen> sorry

<Verla> :-) no problem, Silver

<_LJSingleton> Silver--that's a great question!

<Verla> Linda began writing as a child, filling notebooks with stories about a cat named Taben and girl-sleuth mysteries. It wasn't until she had children of her own that she learned about marketing, critique groups and how to become a professional writer. She writes almost daily and attends writing conferences whenever possible. A frequent speaker, she LOVES to speak about writing -- to both kids and adults.

<Verla> Among Linda Joy Singleton's 20 published books are two series by Avon Camelot -- MY SISTER THE GHOST and CHEER SQUAD. Her most recent book is THE TALKING SNOWMAN, a self-produced Judy Bolton mystery, co-written with author Margaret Sutton, the author of the original Judy Bolton series.

<Verla> Linda lives near Sacramento, CA, on three acres with her supportive husband, David, and their two great teenagers, Melissa and Andy. She loves sunshine, cats, old-fashioned series books, camping, swimming and walking.

<Verla> Okay, Linda, you are ON. (stepping down from podium amid thunderous applause...)

<_LJSingleton> In my opinion, the difference between adult and young adult is topic, tone, and targeted audience

<Verla> For those who just came in, Linda is answering Silverpen's great question: silverpen: I have a question. What's the main difference between an adult story and a YA story?

<_LJSingleton> YA's tend to be shorter, of course, but that varies with publishers

<_LJSingleton> Adult books deal with adult issues and often fit in genres like mystery/fantasy/romance/mainstream. But with YA's, the books can be about anything! There's a freedom there that's amazing.

<_LJSingleton> With a YA, you'll often find the focus limited to the teen world. Serious issues are dealt with, like Todd Strasser's recent book about the dangers of guns

<_LJSingleton> YA's editors tend to shape the market with their tastes and opinions -- often publishing unusual formats and voices

<_LJSingleton> The best way to see the difference between adult and YA books is to pick up a few YA's -- like the recent award winner SPEAK.

<bopp^> Do you find that there's more introspection done by characters in YA's?

<Verla> introspection? (Sheesh. Now I know why I write mostly picture books! Where's my dictionary?)

<Verla> <from the dictionary...> Introspection: Looking inside. Getting inside one's own mind or its contents

<_LJSingleton> I think so. The ones I read really delve into the character's thoughts.

<bopp^> Wow, getting into the skin of a teen!

<_LJSingleton> The adult books I read are mostly mysteries and there's a lot of introspection there as well.

<misskopelke> what kind of research do you do when you are getting ready?

<_LJSingleton> For me personally, I had to research cloning. I am not a scientist, but I wanted a basic understanding of how it worked, so I went online and read up.

<_LJSingleton> For this workshop, I have some prepared ideas on YA's, but it might work best if you just ask questions.

<lorrier> if you have prepared ideas, could you give us some "hot topics" - what you consider most important?

<_LJSingleton> sure--I'll get my notes. The first topic was what Silver already asked, so I'm right on schedule (g).

<_LJSingleton> My 2nd topic was:

<_LJSingleton> * Different levels of YA according to publishing lists

<_LJSingleton> Paperback series YA's will usually be tame enough for younger readers.

[<_LJSingleton> Heavy-topic hardback originals sometimes can be more adult than adult-books.

<DonaV> Wow! that's an interesting thought...more adult than adult books?

<_LJSingleton> Any questions on this? If you're studying YA's, it can get confusing when you read one YA where the tone is very light but then another that is so racy you're hiding the book from your mom.

<_LJSingleton> Don't you think so, Dona? From what I've learned of YA, they go right to the heart of reality.

<misskopelke> adultish is good. i was reading Stephen King at 13.

<DonaV> I do agree. I just hadn't thought of it that way.

[<_LJSingleton> The issues in the serious YA's are raw and often ripped from grim headlines.

<Harazin> I think they are because the teen books of today deal with very heavy topics

<_LJSingleton> But the YA's I write are escapism -- just for fun and adventure. It's strange to be in such a contradictory market.

<silverpen> Teens today deal with heavy topics in life.

<_LJSingleton> I think it's because editors want to be honest with teens and know that teens are skeptical about adults talking down to them.

<_LJSingleton> Besides, many editors are quite young (weg)

NOTE: (weg) = Wicked Evil Grin

<Verla> I'm not sure you answered the question Lorrier asked, Linda... I thought she was asking you about YA topics that are helping books to be saleable in today's market. (But then, I might be all wrong!)

<_LJSingleton> is that what you meant, Lor?

<lorrier> no - sorry Verla ;) was just asking if she had a priority of issues with respect to the craft of writing ya's

NOTE: ;) = a smiling, winking sideways happy face

<Verla> LOL. Figures I'd get it wrong, lorrier. (But you can still talk about my subject, too, Linda, since I think it's a good one also.)

<lorrier> it is Verla - wish I'd asked it :)

<bopp^> I think the market should have more of your style LJ. The YA's I've read are dark and hopeless. I don't know if teens need more of that.

<Verla> I'm with you, bopp. Many of them have depressing thoughts already. They need something uplifting and interesting to read, not something to make them even more reclusive and/or depressed

<DonaV> bopp, I firmly believe you can deal with dark topics and still hold out hope

<_LJSingleton> Dona -- that's it exactly. YA's offer hope. Adult books will often end grimly.

<_LJSingleton> Certainly anything in the headlines is ripe for YA books. But I'd caution following trends as books take a few years usually to become published.

<DonaV> re trends, Linda, some writer with an agent, like YOU, has probably already queried on a hot topic!

<_LJSingleton> But Dona--even writers like ME with an agent are being asked to FINISH the whole book before selling in some situations.

<DonaV> True, but those timely things are VERY hard for an unagented writer to sell

<_LJSingletDonaon> I agree, Dona

<_LJSingleton> I wouldn't advise writing about a hot topic just to make a sale, but rather because it is important to you to write about it

<MelLane> Don't you think YA's are really divided into two groups? i.e., 10 or 12 to 14, and 14 & up? Some YA's I've read, I wouldn't let my teens read!

<_LJSingleton> Yes, Mel -- but not evenly in TWO groups. I'm often hearing editors/librarians/teachers bemoan the difficulty of pegging the YA market.

<_LJSingleton> I'll get my next topic.

<_LJSingleton> 2. Slang? Sex?

<_LJSingleton> Avoid slang. Be true to your book and your style. Sex IS included in older YA's.

<_LJSingleton> In fact, I think some of those YA's can be awfully gritty in that quest for reality

<lorrier> what about swearing?

<DonaV> Lorrier, I swear a lot when I get rejections. <g>

NOTE: <g> = grin

<lorrier> lol dona

<Verla> LOL dona! (Swearing at rejections!)

<_LJSingleton> Lots of swearing in YA's -- the heavy ones. But my personal feelings on it are do what feels right for your book and for your beliefs.

<_LJSingleton> I just put in a s**t word in the book I'm writing and I'm still feeling guilty.

<Verla> I started writing a YA about a hot topic. (Aids) It hadn't been done before. I got a LOT of resistance and was told it would NEVER sell. Now, 11 years later, that book is still "in the works" and it's now historical fiction instead of a hot topic!

<_LJSingleton> Verla--it's still a hot topic....hopefully your timing will be right

<silverpen> Sounds like nothing's too taboo for YA.

<_LJSingleton> For swearing, I sometimes use lines like one in my upcoming THE KILLER #5 REGEN:

<_LJSingleton> just a sec while I find it...

<bopp^> Swearing and sex? brother! Turn on the tv!

<_LJSingleton> Found it

<_LJSingleton> I went directly to the spot where I'd found the blood and bootprints yesterday. But all I saw were mud and puddles. Nothing else. Swearing didn't improve things, but it made me feel a little better.

<DonaV> Good, Linda!

<lorrier> ahhh...good

<_LJSingleton> (That was from my #5 REGEN) ... I avoid the actual swear words when possible.

<Verla> Hey, that was a REALLY smooth way to swear without swearing, Linda!

<_LJSingleton> The readers may be used to bad language, but that doesn't make it right to encourage it. Geez, listen to me! I'm usually more liberal.

<DonaV> I use it when it fits.

<MelLane> I don't like bad language in books... so I look for ways to write around it.

<Verla> Me, too, mel!

<bopp^> You're doing fine LJ. Please get to characterization

<MelLane> From what I've read, it seems characterization is the primary focus now. Do you agree?

<silverpen> What did you mean that the tone of YAs is different?

NOTE: This question was not answered at this time

<DonaV> What about Mel's question about characterization? I'm interested in that.

<DonaV> ...fits the character that is

<MelLane> But I'm very interested in your opinions on character oriented books.

<_LJSingleton> Mel asked about characterization being all-important in YA and I'm learning that it's VERY important.

<MelLane> Basically, I'm wondering if characterization is more important than plot.

<DonaV> Mel, I've been wondering that a lot recently

<_LJSingleton> I've been trying to learn about characterization myself lately. My REGEN books are plot driven, although the characters seem real to me.

<_LJSingleton> So with my new book, I'm focusing on what the character's personal quest is and pushing the action forward from her growth and realizations

<_LJSingleton> Okay, there is still drama like kidnappings and mysterious hunky guys, but I am trying to focus on characters more

<DonaV> Linda, do you find it harder to outline when you focus more on character?

<_LJSingleton> I wrote a synopsis that was still more plot focused. It's the actual writing that is slower as I look inside my character rather than outside at what's happening

<Verla> Don't you think it depends on the STORY whether plot or characterization is more important? I mean, can you imagine a mystery/suspense story without a really strong and complicated plot-line being a very good book to read? Or a romance without characterization so you get to really KNOW and "bleed" for the characters?

<_LJSingleton> But this is all new to me. It's taken me 14 years as a writer to learn this.

<bopp^> LJ how many characters can you have in a story beside the main one? Like how many friends of the main character?

<_LJSingleton> bopp--there are NO rules when it comes to YA's.

<_LJSingleton> The difference seems to be the market and what they are buying.

<_LJSingleton> Every time I decide on a "rule" I read a new hot book that breaks it

<DonaV> Linda, that's one of the things I like about YA...you can experiment!

<silverpen> I just read about this in Sol Stein's book. To him starting with a strong character makes for a stronger story. People will remember a strong character more in his opinion.

<lorrier> I read one of his books too silverpen - he's great

<_LJSingleton> With so much focus on "bestsellers" and award winners, it's harder to sell a book that is just plain fun & exciting

<_LJSingleton> You also seem to need to be making some kind of character statement

<_LJSingleton> I would really advise experimenting. The more unusual voice and story -- the more an editor will take

<MelLane> So, aim for the unusual?

<Verla> (you can experiment all you want, dona. But the big question for me is, "Can you SELL it when it's done?")

<MelLane> I wonder that too, Verla.

<DonaV> Verla, I'll let you know. <g>

<silverpen> My earlier question seems to have gotten lost in the shuffle: What did you mean that the tone of YAs is different?

<_LJSingleton> Tone is hard to explain. And sometimes there are adult books that seem like YA's (Like the WHERE THE HEART IS from Oprah's book club)

<_LJSingleton> But if you look at that book and then look at a YA, there is a difference in rhtymn, scope of story, tone

<_LJSingleton> Here's my 3rd topic to discuss:

<_LJSingleton> 3. What makes voice "fresh?"

<_LJSingleton> It's all relative to personal taste. I've noticed more "southern" books, and my opinion is that style of voice is unique to New York editors and they find it refreshing.

<_LJSingleton> I think the key to success is "passion." It's also good to keep current on the most recent YA's.

<DonaV> The one that threw me was Bastard out of Carolina. I thought it was an adult book all the way, but it was considered YA

<Harazin> There are lots of adult/ya crossovers these days

<_LJSingleton> Sometimes it's simply "marketing" that makes those decisions -- not readers necessarily

<Verla> Of course, sometimes the best books take the longest to sell...because you have to not only get an editor to love it, but also get one willing to take a chance on a radical/different kind of story. (Maybe that's why it took 3 1/2 years to sell my first cryptic rhyme story!)

<_LJSingleton> This is something I consider when I write a book:

<_LJSingleton> 4. Imagine what makes an editor choose a book? Ask yourself what an editor might love about your book? Is there a "sound-bite" description an editor can take to champion your book to acquisitions?

<Verla> Wow, I'm really getting some great information here!

<_LJSingleton> Any questions, anyone?

<Verla> oh, please explain exactly what a "sound-bite" is, Linda

<MelLane> Yes! How can we imagine what an editor wants? Any clues on what they might be looking for?

<MelLane> (that's the hard part for me)

<silverpen> Did you write Regeneration with the thought of it being a series?

NOTE: Linda answered these questions in order.

<_LJSingleton> My soundbite or tag phrase for my clone series was: Party of Five meets the X-Files when five teenagers discover they are the result of a cloning experiment gone wrong.

<_LJSingleton> (Of course Party of Five is now outdated, but my series sold in '98)

<DonaV> Great description, Linda

<_LJSingleton> I always try to have some kind of "tag" with my submission that an editor could take to acquisitions

NOTE: Acquisitions is a committee in a big publishing house that actually makes the final decisions about which manuscripts are going to be accepted and which will be turned down.

<amishka> good idea Linda

<Verla> that's a great idea, Linda

<^Laura> ooh, good one, Linda!

<DonaV> I try to include something in a query letter that the editor could visualize as back cover copy

<_LJSingleton> Dona--that's a great idea about back cover copy

NOTE: Other authors have suggested scanning the back cover copy as printed on Amazon listings to get a "feel" for how to write the copy for your book.

<_LJSingleton> Mel--there's no way to predict an editor. That's why the story needs to come from something you really care about. Passion pushes gems to the top.

NOTE: GREAT quote by Linda! "Passion Pushes Gems to the Top"

<_LJSingleton> Silver asked about REGENERATION--and Yes, I totally wrote the proposal with a series planned. I had 50 pages of a series proposal.

<Verla> Wow! That's a huge proposal! Are they usually that long,, Linda?

<amishka> That's longer than some of my books

<Verla> (It's a LOT longer than ALL of my books, ami!)

<_LJSingleton> But Verla--your books are only 200 words long!! That's barely my back blurb.

<Verla> LOL LInda!

<_LJSingleton> My proposal was 30 pages of story and 20 pages of characters & plot & overview

<MelLane> Wow.

<lorrier> no wonder you write so efficiently Linda - you have all mapped out years ahead!

<_LJSingleton> I had planned 10 books ... and still hold on to hope that I'll be able to write them all.

<_LJSingleton> any more questions or should I go back to my notes?

<Verla> I'm ready for more notes. (And we only have 15 minutes left, so make 'em good ones, Linda. GRIN)

<_LJSingleton> Ironically, NONE of the titles in my proposal made it to the actual books.

<Verla> That's pretty normal, isn't it, Linda? I've heard most titles get changed, although so far only one of my titles has been changed from the selling title. And it was a title I didn't like right from the beginning, anyway, so it didn't bother me at all to have it changed.

<MelLane> Really, Linda?

<silverpen> How long did you spend developing the idea?

<_LJSingleton> Silver -- I tend to work fast on proposals, so probably just a week (but don't tell anyone!)

<silverpen> Get out of town!!

<_LJSingleton> Actually, I think it took about two weeks

<Verla> LOL! LInda writes a lot faster than I do

<_LJSingleton> I am obsessed, that's all (g).

<_LJSingleton> Actually I am writing much slower now, since I'm focusing more on character.

<Verla> So are you saying that you personally find it easier to write plot-driven stories than character-driven stories?

<_LJSingleton> Of course, Verla! Give me plot anyday! But that tends to make for more paperback originals and those are harder to sell.

<_LJSingleton> Okay... back to my notes. Here's some ideas of what works for YA's:

<_LJSingleton> 5. Important factors:

<_LJSingleton> 1. Characters. Must feel alive and real. Readers must care what happens.

<_LJSingleton> 2. Marketing factors. Is it a hot topic (like the recent GUN book)?

<_LJSingleton> Will it appeal to a wide audience? Does the author have a track record?

<MelLane> What if you DON'T have a track record?

<_LJSingleton> Mel--sometimes NOT having a track record is an asset. If an author has only a "fair" track record, it can work against her/him.

<_LJSingleton> I've heard editors speak quite proudly of the authors they have discovered -- finding new authors excites many of them.

<DonaV> Linda, what's the longest book (in manuscript pages) you've written for YA

<_LJSingleton> Dona--my longest book is probably #5 REGENERATION, THE KILLER -- it was about 250 pages before I made some changes

<DonaV> Linda, I recently read where a YA author (fantasy) said her publishers wouldn't look at anything over 200 pages

<_LJSingleton> Really, Dona? That surprises me. But every editor has their own quirks.

<DonaV> I was just wondering if you had found that to be a limit

<_LJSingleton> Of course I've also heard that editors are hesitant to buy fantasy, that teens tend to jump right into adult fantasy.

<_LJSingleton> I haven't found any limit.

<DonaV> That's good news!

<_LJSingleton> With my REGENERATION books, if they went long the editor just put the lines closer together on the page

<bopp^> Good workshop!

<Verla> hmm. Creative typesetting, eh?

<_LJSingleton> It's really important to study what's out there with YA books. Know the various publisher styles. Some want VERY serious, introspective books. Others might like humor more.

<_LJSingleton> But then once you have an idea of what's out there, just put it aside and write YOUR book. Make it personal if you can.

<_LJSingleton> The more you reach into your own feelings, the more an audience will connect.

<silverpen> Well, I don't see any VERY serious, introspective books getting their own TV series.

<_LJSingleton> TV is another animal all together (g).

<amishka> they go right into movies silverpen

<DonaV> Maybe you should think movie, silver

<silverpen> You're right.

<_LJSingleton> If REGENERATION actually makes it TV, that will be quite a miracle. It doesn't happen often to writers.

<silverpen> It beats Power Rangers.

<MelLane> What do you think sells more, LJ?

NOTE: This question was not answered at this time.

<_LJSingleton> On the other hand, if you write a solid YA that sells and is well received, it will likely be "optioned" for TV or a movie. YA books are probably the hottest for getting options.

<DonaV> More good news, Linda

<Verla> I sure hope it does, Linda. Those books are so exciting and so dramatic! Just the opening scene alone would be fantastic on TV

<_LJSingleton> For instance, ELLA ENCHANGED and HOLES are rumored to be in the works for movies or TV.

<_LJSingleton> Many YA authors have already had their books make it to TV, like Lois Duncan, Caroline B. Cooney

<Verla> AWK! Only five more minutes to go! Get your burning questions asked quickly, folks.

<_LJSingleton> Okay, one last thing I wanted to talk about was opening lines. I LOVE good ones. Here's a good one:

<silverpen> How long it take to do the research? When did you know you had enough?

<Verla> oh, good questions, Silver!

<_LJSingleton> 6. Opening lines -- I like them! Catch interest quick.

<_LJSingleton> An opening line I like--from CLOSE TO A KILLER BY Marsha Qualey: "You can die from doing that!" .... Can you guess what the teen was doing?

<_LJSingleton> Anyone else want to guess? Then I'll go to the research question....

<Verla> taking drugs?

<DonaV> kissing

<silverpen> good one, Dona

<Verla> putting a plastic bag over her head?

<^Laura> Sniffing glue?

<_LJSingleton> Nope! Popping a pimple! Isn't that a great opening?

<lorrier> lol

NOTE: lol = Laughing Out Loud

<Verla> LOL I love it!

<silverpen> Eek

<^Laura> gross! lol

<misskopelke> I hope he wasn't touching something

<lorrier> its a wonder I'm still alive then :)

<^Laura> lol, lorrier!

<^Suzy-Q> Which pimple was he trying to pop?

<_LJSingleton> You'll have to get the book to find out more about that pimple (CLOSE TO A KILLER) --new YA mystery

NOTE: Back to the research questions...

<_LJSingleton> Anyway, I read enough about cloning until I could feel a shape of it in my mind. I can't tell you about DNA, but I understand the basic principals.

<silverpen> So you don't have to know everything. Just enough to write convincingly.

<_LJSingleton> Of course if you're researching factual history or something very detailed, you better have all the facts exactly right. Make sure you research thoroughly.

<Verla> I write historical fiction, Silver. I research until I can close my eyes and "see" the time and place and events clearly in my mind. I know what the furniture looks like, what my characters are wearing, I can hear how they sound when they talk and what kind of language they are using. (Local slang words, etc.) Then I know that when I write my story, the reader will "feel" what I do, even though 9/10's of what I learned won't actually "be" in the book.

<silverpen> Thanks, Verla. That was very helpful.

<_LJSingleton> Verla is the QUEEN of historical research. She works so hard, it scares me!

<_LJSingleton> I just make things up as I go along usually (g)

<_LJSingleton> But if I find out that something isn't logical, I rewrite.

<silverpen> Sounds like I could learn a lot from you Verla.

<Verla> No, I'm not, <the queen of historical research> Linda. I just have to do it because my editor asks me all these research questions after the books sell! (She asked me more today on Broken Feather. I now have to take a photo of a Nez Perce "bag" and send it to her for the illustrator)

<_LJSingleton> I just had a reader question me on the sound of a gun going off in THE TRUTH (REGENERATION)

<_LJSingleton> The reader is probably right, but then my characters DO have super human powers, so I have some room for imagination

<_LJSingleton> Anything else???

<_LJSingleton> I can share another opening line, one quite different, more character driven

<amishka> sure

<DonaV> Please do, Linda

<_LJSingleton> This is from the NEW companion novel to THE GIVER.

<_LJSingleton> Opening from GATHERING BLUE, by Lois Lowry: "Mother?" There was no reply. She hadn't expected one. Her mother had been dead now for four days, and Kira could tell that the last of the spirt was drifting away.

<DonaV> <shiver>

<amishka> good opening

<silverpen> Do you ever make it to the East coast?

<_LJSingleton> Silver--if someone invites me to speak at a conference and pays my way, I'd go to the east coast

<_LJSingleton> But I am in Northern CA

<_LJSingleton> Verla goes to the east coast more often than I do (g)

<silverpen> Well, I hope to see both of you some day.

<_LJSingleton> Hey, we went through all of my notes -- and I am finishing on time.

<Verla> Hooray, Linda. This was a GREAT workshop. THANK YOU!

NOTE: Actual workshop ends here

<silverpen> Thanks, Linda.

<DonaV> Very good workshop, Linda. Thanks!

<_LJSingleton> I hope I helped some -- YA's are a hazy topic. Not many REAL answers.

<MelLane> SUPERB workshop, Linda, as always.

<lorrier> thanks Linda!!

<_LJSingleton> bowing and blushing

<Harazin> Yes, Linda. Good workshop--I learned a lot!

* Verla whistles and stomps and claps riotously!

<^Laura> Thank you, all. I'm so glad I found this place!

<amishka> great workshop LJ

<misskopelke> thank you, I not only learned, but was inspired!

<good2u> Thanks, sorry I couldn't be here for all of it

<_LJSingleton> Verla will post it eventually to her website, good

<good2u> Yes Linda

NOTE: And here it is!

* ^Suzy-Q shoots silly string on L.J. Great job!!!!

<_LJSingleton> pulling silly string out of my hair and feeding it to my cat

<^Suzy-Q> Your cat likes silly string?

<_LJSingleton> Cats like anything wiggling -- my daughter is hiding her baby mice from them

* ^Suzy-Q looks at can of silly string.. hummm catnip flavor.

<Verla> The next workshop is on October 10th, folks

<amishka> what's it on Verla?

<silverpen> BE there or be square.

<good2u> What's the topic verla?

NOTE: The next workshop was done by award-winning author, Paula Danziger.

<lorrier> cool

<good2u> OK

<lorrier> well gotta run folks - nite and thanks again Linda

<^Suzy-Q> thank you verla

<_LJSingleton> (waving at sq!)

<^Suzy-Q> HI, Linda

* ^Suzy-Q waves back

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